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carla — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:35:42 -0000

OH MY GOD!!! so this is the real story the facts that u had told are right indeed.....as a "feminist role model” and a woman who lives up “traditional family values.” could not control her 16 year old daughter. n am feeling sorry for Bristol i don't think she had any of her opinion

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losing pregnancy weight — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:03:06 -0000

wow, this is the first I've heard of this.. boy im outta the loop

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Ultem — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:09:44 -0000

Wow, I can't believe Palin is seven months in that picture, she doesn't look pregnant in the least.

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Get Girls Guru — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:04:52 -0000

Strange looking back now to how it all worked out.

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Joel_101 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:27:13 -0000

I don't believe in stealing, and I raised my children with my belief. They still got caught stealing. AM I a hypocrite?

If I say I support the right to life but recognize that others support the right to choice – AM I a hypocrite?

It is my opinion that all humans are hypocrites at least once in their lives. The starving person who doesn’t believe in stealing, but does to feed their family is an example.

Just because someone is hypocritical, doesn’t necessarily make them wrong or bad.

In Sarah’s case, I don’t see anything hypocritical about her 17 year old daughter being pregnant. I also do not see where she has lied about anything – can you please show me where?

As for Romney and Huckabee – I hope McCain appoints them where they can do the most good with their skills. Both have some awesome ideas.

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Joel_101 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:11:03 -0000

Pictures and video on the internet are very unreliable unless the source is very credible.

However, I have heard statements by many, including the first lady, that confirms that she was pregnant - in other words these people saw her etc... during that time period.

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You are wrong — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:36:53 -0000

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/wp-content/uploads/2...

Picture taken in the Spring showing Sarah Palin clearly pregnant. Feel free to eat your words anytime.

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cincy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:29:01 -0000

I doubt B is pregnant now. Cover-up of a cover-up.

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jason — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:28:57 -0000

the palin family needs to be exposed for this hypocrisy.
what a disgrace she is with all her lies. and mccain should be removed as the GOp nominee before it is tooo late and they need to nomintae romney or Huckabee for president before mccain makes another bad choice.
John mccain should lose the nomination over this.
The GOp is a ****ing hypocritical disgrace

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Joel_101 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:31:51 -0000

Nothing wierd here........

Alaskan's do not seem to have made a big deal out of this until others on the internet did the last few days.

I've researched over 500 sites on this topic to conclude that anything is possible... - innocent until proven guilty will remain my thoughts on this topic.

I find all of this redirection, misdirection, propaganda and slandering to be very very distasteful - and some of us wonder why a large amount of people do not want anything to do with politics?

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dotlizard — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:08:29 -0000

and look, Obama handled it all just perfectly http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080901/pl_nm/usa_p...

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TC — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:06:23 -0000

It varies from state to state. In California teens can obtain contraception and abortions without consent, and since they rarely have jobs, we use public funds to cover the costs. You can go to www.naral.org to see what each state says on the issue.

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no. — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:55:03 -0000

it's nationwide. It's a big topic amongst pro-choicers.

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dotlizard — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:47:22 -0000

Janet, that is some excellent picture-finding. that's extremely compelling. and now poor Bristol is pregnant *again*, does Mom realize this is a really bad thing? two babies by age 18? that's a simply horrible thing to inflict on your kids by denying them access to birth control and sex education. I'm not going to say her life is "ruined" but it's certainly indicative of the terrible damage that this mindset can do.

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Janet — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:08:12 -0000

I just heard on the news that Bristol is pregnant. I would say this is pregnancy # 2 from looking at pictures of a post-pregnancy Sarah and Bristol and baby http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=117egpk&s=4 . Click and paste and see for yourself. There's also a photo on internet of Sarah when she was 7 months pregnant with another child and she looks it! Here it is http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080831/cap...
As far as giving Sarah a choice, Palin is on record during her Gubernatorial run that she would be "against abortion even if my daughter were raped'! So there you have it. No choice, no matter the reason.

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Bill Smith — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:05:38 -0000

September 1, 2008. A neighbor who has been watching FOXTV, just called - FOX is reporting Bristol Palin is pregnant and will marry :soon:.

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LuAnn — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:12:38 -0000

I'd have a lot more respect for her if she would just be honest about the baby thing. I'd rather know that Trig is actually her grandchild and was born out of wedlock than have such an elaborate charade from someone aspiring to, arguably, the second most powerful office in the country.

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carly jean — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:55:38 -0000

A few quick points to note.

First, the bottom picture you have of the family was taken last summer, not at a point in the pregnancy when it would have shown on either woman. Note that this is Alaska, and there is no snow on the mountains. This baby was carried and delivered during the fall/winter/spring so there would have been at least some snow evident. Plus, look at the youngest daughter in the outdoor pic and then the more recent indoor pic. You can see that she's older. I don't think that's a baby bump on Bristol in the outdoor pic, which could mean that she's just naturally a little poochy.

BUT, something very interesting struck me tonight. Palin met McCain for the first time during the National Governors Association meeting, which occured Feb 20 - 25, 2008. Palin announced to staff and the papers that she was pregnant on March 6th, and no one could believe it.

On Feb 8th, Bristol Palin was in a car accident (minor) and it raises the question of why this teenager, who was out of school because of mono, was out driving alone. The driver of the car she struck said, when asked recently, that he didn't notice that she was pregnant, but also said that with the police there and it being winter in Alaska and everyone was in heavy coats, he couldn't say she wasn't pregnant.

It just leads one to wonder. If it was Bristol who was pregnant (and we do not know that) perhaps the Palin family wasn't intending to keep the child, but rather put him up for adoption after his birth, allowing Bristol to return to school after her "mono" was cured. Then, Sarah meets McCain and gets a hint that she's being considered for VP (remember, there was a "Draft Palin" campaign underway by a student in Colorado) and the family decided to change course, say the baby was Sarah's and rolled out the announcement less than 2 weeks later.

I've read that the National Enquirer is investigating this whole story. No, they are not a "news" magazine, but they were the ones who first reported on John Edwards' affair.

We'll just have to see how this story develops, but there's also a part of me who thinks this is a Rovian creation to discredit the Dems and make them/us look like a bunch of vultures, questioning a woman who gave birth to a special needs child.

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becky — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:39:55 -0000

just wanted to add in a link: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121...

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dotlizard — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:56:50 -0000

i used to like McCain - at least, the McCain who was a crazy upstart maverick, the one who was beaten in the 2000 primaries by the Rove/Bush machine, the one who went on Jon Stewart and seemed like a decent sort, that McCain. but that McCain was the one who chose to get all Roved-up himself as soon as he had the chance, which is to be expected, but no less sickening. and his choice of VP and his timing could not have been more Rovian, a blatant move to pander to the undecideds and disaffected Clintonistas, no matter how ridiculous it is to put someone with no qualifications for the job of President, one heartbeat away from it.

and while i considered the notion that dragging her daughter into this was out of line, i dismissed it with the same logic you did, that when Ma Palin accepted the nomination, she effectively sacrificed any expectation of privacy for all of her children. though i feel sympathy for Bristol, who at the very minimum has just been called "fat" by a bunch of bloggers.

in any case, thanks for all the work you did on this and for your willingness to put yourself out there. the small but vocal group of people who have made a stand on this issue are for sure coming under some fire, many have backed down, thank you for not being among them. "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead

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Jennyjinx — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:42:50 -0000

It's not about working while pregnant. It's about being irresponsible while touting "family values" and "respect for life".

If she respected her son's life so much, then why was she behaving in such a way knowing that her pregnancy was high risk? Her pregnancy- if it was - was risky because of her son's condition (which she said she knew about at 4 months) and because of her advanced maternal age (that's a medical term, you might want to look that up). She need not stop working, but flying here and there while leaking amniotic fluid a month early was reckless.

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Jennyjinx — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:38:02 -0000

I'm not going to comment on whether or not Trig is her son or grandson except to say it's a little iffy. Let's, for now, assume that he is her son.

Hers was a high risk pregnancy, both because of Trig's illness and her age. What was she thinking when she continued to work all those hours, fly back and forth, run in the "hills" and other activities that put her child more at risk? She believes he has a right to life, then why wasn't she busy making sure her son had the very best start she could give him? What does it say of her "family values" when she risks the life of her unborn child so that she can give a political speech?

Moving on to post-partum.

Trig was premature with a genetic defect, which means that most hospitals would have kept him in the NICU (she didn't have him in a hospital equipped with a NICU, but we'll ignore that ugly fact). His regular stay would have been at least 48 hours, but how much longer would he have stayed because of his condition? Why wasn't she in the hospital with him? What kind of mother can leave her sick infant and go back to work? Is that dedication or recklessness?

If Trig wasn't kept for more than two days, what kind of care was he getting? Who was caring for him? Does he have a nurse? I have a friend with a Downs baby who is on the higher end of the spectrum, but he still needs an extra amount of care. Was Gov. Palin so non-chalant about her son's health that she could just leave him and head on back to work full-time. If so, what does that say about her "family values"?

Someone surmised that perhaps Gov. Palin was hoping that Trig wouldn't make it past birth and that's why she was so reckless. It's a valid theory, I think.

Now, we'll guess that perhaps Trig belongs to Bristol. I have no problem with Bristol and wish her the best. However, this would explain why Gov. Palin was able to high-tail it back to work and why she didn't seem at all concerned about the welfare of this child. Also, as the governor, Palin would have the resources to hide her daughter's pregnancy as well as take ownership of her daughter's son- and few would have been the wiser. She's a powerful woman in her home state, no doubt many people would have come to her aid in this matter. I imagine that a small hospital in an Alaskan village would provide a better cover for her story than a larger hospital in the "lower 48" or even in a larger Alaskan city. I'm sure that the medical staff in Wasilla would be more than willing to keep this secret.

If Gov. Palin did adopt her grandson, that's admirable to a certain degree. However, her stance against contraception, sex education, and abortion tells us that she knows those policies fail horrendously and that she's a pandering hypocrite. Unless Trig is her son- in which case she's a selfish and irresponsible.

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susan — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:56:26 -0000

1) Michael Moore speaks for Michael Moore. Period. 2) Our daughter has had over a dozen public high school girls in her math classes drop out at 6-7 months. 3) Our daughter looked at these photos and said there is no doubt the girl is pregnant. 4) Palin makes sure someone stands in front of her so as no photo at that time can be taken--the reverse of what sitcoms do when not writing a pregnancy into a script..5) The one photo of Palin at 7 months does NOT show a pregnant woman. 6) having her a heartbeat from the American presidency gives me the creeps 7) she does this to Bristol---allowing NO CHOICE--creates nightmares about what she would do to all other women of childbearing years in America 8) she needs to resign from being governor now and certainly must withdraw from V.P. 9) A liar is a liar whether independent/democratic or republican 10) My mother and father had 17 children and not once did they force us to have a baby for mommy dearest 11) what a let-down to all in America who care about truth and honesty and who really do care about children 12) some talk a good talk but the real talk is with mom and daughter and educating daughter on methods of birth control.12) not teaching sex education makes the situation worse..........13)Last: this Palin family needs therapy now---it is a crime to abuse children and what they have done to Bristol is criminal

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washwords — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:53:11 -0000

ha ha ha. netta is funny.

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menstrualpoetry — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:49:19 -0000

I actually read every single 1100+ comments (at that point, who knows how many comments they have over there now) on Daily Kos before I even started this post on the topic and it took me hours because I refused to link to Daily Kos for any type of "proof" because I've seen again and again what they get from the right. I think it took me hours to get this post written because of that alone--Making it a priority to scour the internet for several other resources; resources that wouldn't bring a backlash of conservative, right wing commentators screaming "liberal bias, oh no!"

I could not possibly agree with you more when you ask what if it had been Michelle Obama. Hell, Fox News makes shit up about her like it's their form of religion because she doesn't have much to go after. I swear Hannity stays up all night going through files upon files of Michelle pictures seeing what he can try to bring up on her next; it's disgusting. I believe they would indeed put something like this on their show (because it isn't news, it's an entertaining show at best) if it had something to do with the Obamas, screaming about what a horrible mother Michelle is, how voters need answers and demanding DNA tests.

I'm not too worried about the anger and backlash I may get here--I'm pretty used to it being an open lefty, feminist blogger and I believe that all I have done in this case is stoop to the lows of the right and I see nothing wrong with that, to be completely honest. I know that lefty bloggers most often try to appear "bigger" than right wing bloggers because the right will dig up and blog about anything and everything to "sway" the people yet the left (in most cases) try to stay on top of hearsay and blog about the facts. I am pleasantly surprised I haven't received a lot of anger (thus far, at least) and am happy to say that this blog post, while some can say that I am stooping to the lows of the right, when a lefty blogger does it, conversation and constructive criticism happens and I like that. I would much rather blog about events that can strike up conversation instead of receive a ton of comments that all say "Yes, I agree." and that's the end of it.

I am scared about backfiring political-wise, however and I think Obama has enough sense not to comment on something like this, if it were even brought up to him to begin with. It could hurt his campaign, but hell, how much has happened so far that have been said could kill his campaign? Yet he still continues forward, fighting for the people and not using them as pawns in some sick game he has up his sleeve, which I believe is what McCain is doing. McCain couldn't even give Obama and his voters the time they deserved to celebrate before breaking news on his new veep and that is a bit disappointing, to say the least.